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Unread postPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:22 am 
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Hi all,

I have a specific question for those of you whose main reason to be CF is the planet's overpopulation:

If there was no problem with overpopulation, few people and more than enough resources, would you then choose to have children?

(just to satisfy my own curiosity :) )


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Unread postPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:19 am 
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I am concerned about overpopulation, but the more compelling reason why I'm Childfree is because of the time-opportunity-cost of children. I never believed the "have it all" myth as it always seemed to defy basic logic. A person can't do two things equally well at the same time. We can't be in two places at once. Teleportation only exists in science fiction. Did breeders watch too much Star Trek?

If overpopulation was not currently a problem I still wouldn't have children.

I don't actively dislike children and also have a social conscience. If there was imminent risk of the human race disappearing, I might put myself out to repopulate. George Clooney and I would save the day. :lol: But am so glad that's an unlikely and purely hypothetical scenario. Then again, there would be many benefits raising a child without the company of other parents. No one to provide unsolicited advice, no kindercrap, and no one to bore me with conversations about their little Bratley. (She's gifted you know). The child could provide farm labour and wouldn't know the meaning of peer pressure or pester power.


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Unread postPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:30 am 
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Probably not, but I would at least not be so irritated every time I go out and see big families everywhere.

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Unread postPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:41 am 
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No. Overpopulation is just one of many reasons why I don't want kids. If overpopulation wasn't an issue, all of my other reasons would still be there. The main one being I don't like kids.

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Unread postPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:48 am 
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No, I wouldn't have children either. Overpopulation is more strangely coincidental; I knew I didn't want children before I knew overpopulation existed. I wasn't sheltered, I was just an early articulator! I have to admit though, I do love how being CF fits into my value system so smoothly. :mrgreen:

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Unread postPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:32 am 
No, I wouldn't either. I actually think the nature in this world would be better off without us humans, though part of me would be sad at the loss of good things humans bring, like art, music, positive aspects of culture, creation, thought etc. However my reasons for being CF are so long that even if a bunch were removed from the list I'd still be on this road. This applies to this question too.


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Unread postPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:35 am 
No. The main reasons I don't want kids are (in order); they annoy the fuck out of me, they are a time suck and would prevent me from doing what I want (my career, research, teaching, travel), the idea of pregnancy and birth repulses me, I don't want to be dragged into outdated gender roles (I notice that this happens after breeding, suddenly she ends up as 'Mummy' with all its connotation, whether she wanted this pre-pregnancy or not, I don't want to be a single mother and I also don't want to live with my partner (gender roles again). These are all personal reasons.

However, environmental reasons factor big in why I oppose natalism / pronatalism in political / policy / economic discourses. There are other reasons too (to do with equality, and also gender, etc.) - but this is the biggie for me. I also support other environmental policies and initiatives and try to live in an environmentally conscious way in other ways too.

So there is a difference between my personal and political response.


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Unread postPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:51 am 
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I'm with s.rosa - I still wouldn't have kids, but I wouldn't feel so facepalm-y when I see huge families.

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Environmental issues had absolutely nothing to do with my decision.

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Unread postPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:33 am 
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I am so glad this got brought up! I didn't even know it was possible to be environmentally CF until I read wikipedia, lol.

My answer is NO, but that is mainly because I am first most CF because I don't want children, not that I want to bring down the population of the earth.


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